2006-06-21 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: What class would Maze of Guile be?

2006-06-21 [Patri]: Not informative and not artistic. Probably friendly and some may find mazes funny too.

2006-06-21 [spincrus]: Has this feature been announced properly? It's the first time I've seen it.

2006-06-21 [Patri]: It was mentioned many times in the forums

2006-06-21 [iippo]: It was mentioned in the Elftown wiki forum. I doubt it would be in the news since it's not really a thing that everyone has to know about, since most can't use it.

2006-06-22 [Calico Tiger]: For everyone who can set ratings, there was an alarm note about it that they could see :)

2006-06-22 [Nita]: Members of the Council and Guards have to read the forums before they do anything new, anyway.

2006-06-22 [Zab]: Could only priv 89 see it, or was it sent to all members? *just curious* the alarm note I mean..

2006-06-22 [Nita]: Yes, just like Calico said.

2006-06-22 [Zab]: Only for those who could rate then? (Sorry, her comment wasn't clear if it was just us or everyone, and yours isn't either, really..:S)

2006-06-22 [Nita]: For everyone who can set ratings - What can be clearer than that? :P Yes, it was priv 89 only...

2006-06-22 [Zab]: Sorry...

2006-06-22 [spincrus]: Is the minimum priv for being a guard 14? Council members are at least priv 89, right? So, a wiki boss, with at least 49 priv, already has more priv than the basic council member (correct me if I'm wrong please). I'd suggest having a third tier in being a wiki boss who could have something like 90 priv, but no mainstreet news posting priv, which could allow these people to rate wikis?

2006-06-22 [Nita]: Why? :)

2006-06-22 [spincrus]: [Hedda] wants to get the name of Elftown out, right? :D And the wiki categorization thing is a good step towards telling the world about ET, but guards and council members already have quite a bit in their hands and there are thousands of wikis to deal with. I think a team dedicated for such a categorization would make things faster.

2006-06-22 [sequeena_rae]: If that idea goes ahead, I wouldn't mind volunteering for that :)

2006-06-22 [spincrus]: I would've suggested a similar thing for the badge distribution for "official contest contributors". I don't know how the badge slots work, but it'd also make the life of guards easier, as they have those 100s of contributors to offical competitions to distribute contribution badges to :D

2006-06-22 [Nita]: As you can clearly see on privs, the badge slot suggestion has already been implemented ;)

2006-06-22 [Nita]: And there are around 60 active Council members, I think... Shouldn't that be enough?

2006-06-22 [spincrus]: Oh, last time I checked advanced help was like a long while back, so didn't know :D

2006-06-22 [spincrus]: It would for sure, but I think there are much more wikis for even 60 to handle. One plus of ET is that the members are actually active, unlike Elfwood mods.

2006-06-22 [iippo]: I'm a wikiwhore, if there's any wiki that should be read and rated by a counciller, I don't mind having a look.

2006-06-22 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: ...ooo! Pick my wikis!

2006-07-03 [a clockwork orange]: What should I do to nominate a wiki for a rating? ^^;

2006-07-04 [Patri]: Wikis are not nominated for rating. At least not for now...

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: Well, members could always leave a link here and let us look at it :)

2006-07-04 [a clockwork orange]: ok, then! Here you go: anti-racism & The Lizard King ;)

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: Bob's Diner & Maze of Guile, lil' cracka's.

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: I think Maze of Guile might be considered, if all pages were exported. As this wiki already explains.

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: ...I'd export all of them, if half of the usernames I used to make them weren't banned...

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: Too bad xD

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: ...you suck!

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: You suffer from your own karma :P

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: Curse you, karma!

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: Nownow, the curse might be passed right back at you ;)

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: ...feh... *throws rock at karma*

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: You're entering a vicious circle here..

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: Eh... what's a turkey to do?

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: Listen to good advice :P

2006-07-04 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: Never!

2006-07-04 [Sunrose]: Okay then :p

2006-07-05 [Channah]: lol a hearty arguement. i think sunrose holds the upper hand. the karma'll always getcha!

2006-07-06 [Lady Chaos]: How do I lure crew members to my page to get them to rate it? Just ask here, right, or do I have to be friends with them?

2006-07-06 [iippo]: Just drop the link in front of them somewhere (I think it's fair to link here since this wiki is about ratings so it's not the horrible kind of spammage.)

2006-07-06 [Lady Chaos]: Ooooh okay, that's awesome! Much easier than I'd thought! Thanks... here goes... The Chaos Collection, Recipes, I'm An Artist. They're not all mine either, but I thought those 3 were great pages.

2006-07-07 [BinaryPhoenix]: One of mine: Natural Magick  ^_^

2006-07-07 [Sunrose]: It has an illegal banner: http://s3.amazonaws.com/blogskins_skin_images/65317/screenshots/65317.jpg .. (that also applies to your house).

2006-07-07 [iippo]: And it's more like an index page too.

2006-07-07 [Sunrose]: Yepp..

2006-07-07 [Lady Chaos]: Have you guys looked at the pages I recommended?

2006-07-07 [Sunrose]: The first one is a wiki with your own art and the last one with art done by [Nebsy]. I understand it is artistic, but if I may be blunt I don't think either of them ought to be rated. Recipes could be interesting though :)

2006-07-07 [Lady Chaos]: You don't think that people's personal art pages should be rated eh? How come artofasrun, the brokenmoon: art by trav, Sawy's Art, Art by Silver Wind (and lots more) are in the "most artistic wiki pages" list? I smell hypocrisy. Eh, I'll just con a friend of a friend into rating them.

2006-07-08 [Kyrinn]: O.o' Nice...

2006-07-08 [Sunrose]: I didn't say own artpages can't be rated, you just assumed I implied that. You brought your wiki here to be looked at, I'm not going to rate it because you might get offended otherwise. It means you subjected your wikis to criticism and I don't think they are good enough. I tried to be subtle about it, but it seems you really want it spelled out. If I must be the bad guy, then I will be. If another Councilmember disagrees with me and wants to rate it, that's fine by me.

2006-07-08 [Lady Chaos]: Oh, that's okay, no worries. I don't mind criticism... heck, I'm happy if someone looks at the page! And everyone has different opinions about what makes good art... some of us don't have graphics tablets, scanners or money for art school, so it's not exactly a level playing field, so I'm not offended. But hey, it made it onto the "most artistic wiki pages" after all.

2006-07-08 [Lady Chaos]: Hmmm... I have just had a look at the "most artistic wiki pages" list again and changed my opinion... Surely 71 low quality photomanips and paint drawings has more artistic value than "Playgans"... I mean, it may be a great wiki but whoever rated it as a "10" in terms of "artistic" needs their head read. I would be offended that anyone votes a page with 7 mainly black and plain banners and a picture as more artistic than my page. But that is the problem with these ratings, they are just personal opinions... not that I have a better idea. If they were polls, everyone'd just get their friends to vote. So I don't know, I guess what I'm saying is the wiki ratings isn't the best idea ET has seen.

2006-07-08 [iippo]: Note that artistic includes written art as well. Now please stop with the offensiveness, the attitude and the judging, thank you.

2006-07-08 [Lady Chaos]: But seriously... "Playgans" more artistic than an art wiki? Sure Playgans may be good, but there's no poetry, stories, and very little art. Yes, the text is well written and convincing. Yes, the name is catchy and it's a pretty good concept. But more artistic than a freakin' art wiki?! With art of various styles? I'm not saying my page is the best, of course it's not... just put things in perspective here, seriously.

2006-07-08 [Sunrose]: The levels of rating aren't that clear yet as the feature is new and there are only a few pages rated, so let's not start a big fuss about it already. Also, a rating of 10 in terms of artistic is still pretty low considering the scale goes from 1 to 100+.

2006-07-08 [Delladreing]: I find it funny at the level of bitterness present. I read your diary also and there’s many points I would like to make, but I'm not going to cause a fight. its not worth it, after all this is just the internet. I will however say I am extremely happy and grateful that I got such a high rating, I have dedicated nearly two years of my life to Playgans, and am now working on it being made in to a book with publishers already interested. It is not as you seemed to think just a "hate" wiki.

2006-07-08 [Delladreing]: The aim of Playgans was that of education, the sarcasm used is just my style; I like to make people laugh. Playgans is not loved because its "popular" with the cool kids who gang up on people. It’s well liked because it is well written and full of history and factual information on the pagan world and is constantly being developed.

2006-07-08 [Delladreing]: As for the artistic rating *shrugs* my wiki pages contain graphics and photographs, and now fan art also. If I had recieved nothing for the Art, I would not have batted an eye lid. But I most certainly would not made a public display of myself in a wiki slandering someone else’s hard work.

2006-07-08 [Delladreing]: Apologies for the long postings to everyone else, but I felt it had to be said in light of the recent postings :)

2006-07-08 [Kyrinn]: If I may make a note here, I think the issue is that those wikis you suggested were YOUR wikis, [Lady Chaos], well, yours and a friends. I think it improper to come in to a place and tell them to rate YOUR wikis. If you came in with other ppl's wikis that you came across, then I can see us wanting to rate them. But you came in with wikis that were yours or a close friend of yours. I think that is at least part of the issue, and your artwork's quality has nothing to do with it. Just my views. So now, Ill let it be. ^_^

2006-07-08 [Lady Chaos]: I think most elftowners with a page of their own art would like to see it rated, it means more people will look at it... so why not ask? It's better than just not doing anything then getting all annoyed when no one bothers to rate it. Not everyone has a best bud on the ET Council who would think of being so kind as to rate their wikis. So I figured no harm in asking here. There are a lot of other wikis that I think are worthy of being rated, I just thought I would ask about the ones I could think of off the top of my head first. I could have always bugged a friend to recommend my pages here, just for the sake of looking better. But what a drag that would be.

2006-07-08 [Lady Chaos]: As for the wiki "Playgans", I don't have a problem with it... good for you... I was just using it as a reference point on the "artistic" scale.

2006-07-08 [Kyrinn]: Um, if you feel you have to, as you say, BUG someone to rate your page, that doesnt really make you look better. Plus not all wikis being rated are becuase ppl who own those pages are friends with ppl who are Council or Assembly. Some of them are being rated becuase somone on the council or assembly happen to be watching that page, and like it. Its not about who you know, this isnt a popularity contest.

2006-07-08 [Delladreing]: Well I'll say it bluntly, the way you were refering to it was rather...degrading, and I don't appreciate it, but if nothing was meant I will take nothing of it.

2006-07-09 [Lady Chaos]: I'm sorry about that... I was just a little pissed off about it... perhaps I read too much into the description of "artistic" under "Classes of ratings"... either way, I have nothing against your page, it's good! Just the fact that it would be given an "artistic" rating whereas an art page wouldn't. Anyway, I made a list of suggestions to improve the wiki ratings. (Don't worry, they're not a rant). suggestions for wiki-ratings

2006-07-09 [Sunrose]: *sigh* No, the wiki was NOT denied by me, because it was [Lady Chaos]' own wiki!!! I already cleared that up before, don't bring that issue back please [Kyrinn]. I denied it because I thought it wasn't good enough, I don't care who it belongs to. Thus, you can mention any wiki for rating, as long as you realise it may be denied and that it doesn't grant you the right to throw a tantrum in this wiki. // The term 'artistic' does NOT solely refer to images, it refers to any type of media that can be considered artistic! That includes poetry and stories, images aren't more or less artistic.

2006-07-09 [Sunrose]: Which means that a wiki containing images doesn't have more right to artistic rating than any other wiki with a different type of artistic media. // You imply that this rating-system is subject to popularity. I can't deny that knowing crew might make it easier on getting rated, however we do our best to keep things as fair as possible. A lot of wiki's get rated simply because, as [Kyrinn] said, crew already hangs out there. For good reasons, as it simply is a good wiki. The feature only just started, you can't expect us to have rated all of the best wikis you have in mind within such short time. 

2006-07-09 [Sunrose]: In the mean time, a general warning aimed at no specific member: Don't message crew-members until you get your wiki rated. It will be considered spam and will have negative consequences for you. You can suggest your wiki here, it will be taken into the Councilforum and you will get an answer. You'll have to accept the answer for what it is.

2006-07-09 [Sunrose]: I won't tolerate any more discussion about this specific case: I will delete any such comments. But, I will gladly take a look at suggestions for wiki-ratings :)

2006-07-09 [idyllicday]: where do we post the wikis we'd like to have rated?

2006-07-09 [Calico Tiger]: Go ahead and post them here :)

2006-07-09 [idyllicday]: okay ^^ Deliberately Offensive

2006-07-10 [Thε ßαd Turkεy]: ...well... I exported all of maze of guile down to the part where I used [The Bad Turkey²]...

2006-08-12 [Iron-Man-429]: Please Rate Armored Core ^_^

2006-08-12 [iippo]: Wiki has to be exported before it can be rated.

2006-08-12 [Iron-Man-429]: oh ok Sure Ill get that done. Ill post when I have it done.

2006-08-12 [Iron-Man-429]: ok it should all be exported now

2006-11-23 [The Broken Hearted Poet]: How do I get my wiki rated?

2006-11-23 [Ocean Soul]: it has to be outstanding, then a counciler can rate it

2006-11-23 [Janouk]: (it also has to be exported ;))

2006-11-23 [Lady Chaos]: And also it is rated by the council-forum apparently, not just one member. :)

2006-11-23 [Ocean Soul]: Well, one counciler rates it, but it is of course first of all being discussed.

2007-03-17 [Rosario Dreams]: May I have Rosario Dreams rated please?

2007-03-17 [Sunrose]: The main page doesn't really offer anything, it seems to be more about the subpages...

2007-03-19 [Hedda]: I've messaged [Rosario Dreams] about the details. We'll not rate the subpages, so rating the main page is the only thing to do.

2007-07-17 [Mortified Penguin]: ...Bob's Diner. Also, as Turkey said, Maze of Guile... As well as Barry Cotter and the Sorcerer's Bone...

2007-07-18 [kduncan]: I've been a member of Bush haters Association for a couple of years now. It's certainly a wiki worthy of recognition; it's members tend to be well-read, and argue there position well by posting facts and relevent links. The wiki name is actually a bit of a mis-nomer in that though the wiki started with focus on the Bush administration, it has grown to incorporate other areas of discussion. Though activity has slowed in recent months, this wiki is a must read for those interested not only in US politics, but in topics that are of interest to everyone. Don't forget to visit the wiki's this one links to. Lord Kügenheim, Goldice and Dil* have done a terrific job moderating this wiki, and keeping it on track.

2007-07-18 [Mortified Penguin]: Activity has slowed, eh? ...I'll take care of that!

2007-09-02 [Silver Moon]: how do i get my rpg rated?

2007-09-02 [iippo]: Post a link to it here for example, and we'll take a look :) If it is the best of its kind, it'll get a rating.

2007-09-02 [Silver Moon]: The Tower Of Seletar

2007-09-03 [Hedda]: It's not exported and can therefore not be rated.

2007-09-05 [Silver Moon]: how do I export it?

2007-09-05 [windowframe]: Just underneath the edit button for the wiki-page is another button that allows you to start exporting the wiki.

2007-09-05 [Silver Moon]: ok thnx I'll do that than

2007-09-05 [Silver Moon]: I opened it up so it can get rated

2007-09-05 [Hedda]: If you export the subpages, I can give it a friendly-rating.

2007-09-06 [Silver Moon]: subpages?

2007-09-06 [Veltzeh]: All the other pages associated with the RPG.

2007-09-06 [Silver Moon]: ok I will thnx

2007-09-06 [Hedda]: I gave The Tower Of Seletar a friendly-rating now. Should it be listed on and be linking to some role-playing wiki? [Veltzeh], you know about that stuff?

2007-09-06 [Veltzeh]: Well, Text Adventures would be the place to list it. It's optional, though. In general, if you want to advertize it or are looking for different people to join, it's a good idea to list the game, but if it's only for a select few people, there isn't too much point in listing it, unless you want people to just look at it.

2007-09-08 [Silver Moon]: I would like a few more players

2007-09-08 [Veltzeh]: You can add it to the list yourself if you wish. :)

2007-09-12 [Mystereality]: I'm just trying to get some comments on my works, so I guess I will get it added here. LeonRes-Evil2's Writings the linked pages are not subpages, but they link to private pages.
thank you.

2007-09-14 [Hedda]: OK, but I'll not rate that as it doesn't have public interest.

2007-09-23 [Jitter]: Would it be possible to get a rating for Jitter Art? I know that's mainly a wiki index but all sub-wikis are also exported.
If it doesn't qualify it's okay! Thanks in advance for your time!

2007-09-24 [Hedda]: I gave it an artistic rating, but I'm generally not the one who should do that as I'm not into art and stuff.

2007-09-24 [Jitter]: *giggles* Thank you :)

2007-10-23 [†SYN†]: †vampires† It's an RP but I think it might be worth a rating... Well I hope so anyways.

2007-10-23 [Hedda]: I leave that up to someone who wants to dig into RPs. I have a hard time seeing if it's worth rating. See [Veltzeh]'s comment about though!

2007-10-24 [windowframe]: At least some of the banners that you're encouraging people to put in their houses on that page break the UAR. You should probably take care of that before getting it rated.

2007-10-28 [Jitter]: Could someone please check Cooking? I think it might worth rating :)

2007-11-26 [roslyn]: If anyone has time, I'd love to have my Costumes and Crafts rated. 

2007-11-26 [Hedda]: OK, I gave it a rating. Maybe I should have given it an artistic rating instead, but at least it's rated now.

2007-11-26 [Mortified Penguin]: I still would like a rating for maze of guile if it's ever possible...

2007-11-27 [Hedda]: [Mortified Penguin]: That has to wait until someone in the crew tries it out and think it's good.

2007-11-27 [Mortified Penguin]: Okey dokey, smokey...

2008-01-08 [THE 1ST SEX GOD]: boo

2008-01-20 [Corazie]: Could someone have a look at Book Fanatics? A lovely, friendly community for lovers of books with lots of links to Author and sometimes Book pages. Polls and discussions are generally active, though most take part through private messages and guestbooks when members get really involved.

2008-01-21 [windowframe]: You need to export your pages first. :)

2008-01-22 [Linderel]: Anyone want to rate my poetry page Coal black wings for me? I could do it myself, but that would be conceited. :P

2008-01-27 [Hedda]: I gave it 1 because I don't like poetry, but some who does can change it

2008-01-27 [Hedda]: Eh... But on second thought:

No, it shouldn't be rated. Its name makes no sense in the list of artistic pages. It should at least have "poetry" in it's wiki-page name. Change that, and we can rate it.

2008-01-28 [Linderel]: Then we can forget about that entirely. I'm too fond of the name to change it.
...unless I find something that doesn't sound too corny or generic.

2008-02-03 [Hedda]: What's wrong with Coal black wings poetry?

Well, it might anyway be much better to link to it from a poetry page and we'll rate the poetry-page. There is already one there, I think, but I have no intention on examine how the poetry is organized here on Elftown.

2008-02-03 [Linderel]: Too long!
Besides, all the comments are there. <_<
You might be speaking of Poets meeting point.

2008-02-04 [Hedda]: Maybe, I have no idea.

Maybe you should rate that? You're the poet expert, you know.

2008-10-22 [~Spirit Fox~]: I don't know if there's a wiki like this, and there probably is, and probably a better one, but would you mind checking out my friends wiki? It's Funny Thoughts

2008-10-23 [Hedda]: [~Spirit Fox~]: OK, I added a funny-rating. You should Stumble it too.

2008-10-23 [~Spirit Fox~]: Thank you, my friend will be so happy.

2008-10-24 [iippo]: I don't know what that Stumble thing does. Could you make a little explanatory note about it, Hedda (because when I don't know stuff, I assume that there are other people who also don't know that stuff :P) Maybe just a little explain on this page, or on a page of its own...?

2008-10-25 [Hedda]: If you press the Stumble-button, you'll be taken to their site where it's explained. I don't know if I should explain it here really. The thumb-up is pretty explaining, I think...

You simply recommend the page to people using Stumbleupon's tool-bar. 

2008-10-30 [iippo]: So do you need to be a Stumble user (sTumbler?) to do that?

2008-10-31 [Hedda]: Yes.

2009-02-22 [Chimes]: The Elftionary - Can it get rated? :)

2009-02-22 [Artsieladie]: Ok, I've never asked for a rating, and rating a page of my own is a bit not kosher? I'd like to have Eyecatching Artworks rated. I created it to give Elftown artists more exposure of their works randomly. I haven't finished the banner for it, though, because I've been working on the rewards. Perhaps, I should wait until everything is complete, although it is up and running for just over 2 weeks. :P

2009-02-23 [Hedda]: I gave it a rating.

2009-02-23 [windowframe]: Don't forget to add them to Wiki Nominations too. :3

2009-02-23 [hanhepi]: ok, here's a wiki to rate (and to use, if you'd like.) Whoa! You Want My Advice??

2009-02-23 [Hedda]: It needs a little more content before I rate it.

2009-02-23 [Dark Side of the Moon]: Ir-Iddyns gallery I've always wondered how it stood next to the other artist galleries here. 

2009-02-23 [Hedda]: Definitely worth to be rated at least. I'll leave to others if it should have a higher rating.

2009-02-23 [Chimes]: Chimes' Manipulations - Not sure if this will count... unless you're alright with my shortening of 'photomanipulations' to 'manipulations'. :P

2009-02-23 [Hedda]: It should do.

2009-02-24 [xXxDarkRosexXx]: Can I have my wiki Graham Crackers Anonymous rated, please?

2009-02-24 [Mortified Penguin]: Bob's Diner and Maze of Guile... *eats ramen*...

2009-02-24 [Hedda]: Graham Crackers Anonymous doesn't have any content of public interest as far as I can see.

[Mortified Penguin]: Rated!

2009-02-24 [Hedda]: Seems like we have to be careful about rating pages as some people decide to just delete the rated page. Please tell if you see anything like that so we can remove the rating!

2009-02-25 [Neimo]: Perhaps my wiki The Rose and the Ruin counts as artistic? It's an on-going Roleplay... -head tilt-

2009-02-25 [Hedda]: I leave it to someone who's interested in that to judge if it should be rated.

An on-going roleplay if more like a friendly rating though.

2009-07-04 [sequeena_rae]: German Shepherd Dog Guide - Can it get rated? :) I understand I have rating privs but I don't want to rate my own wiki lol

2009-07-05 [Hedda]: I gave it a 1-rating. It's probably worth more, but I have no clue.

2009-07-05 [Alexi Ice]: If I knew how to rate things (which is sad since I'm council) I would rate it.

2009-07-05 [sequeena_rae]: Thanks [Hedda] :P

2010-08-16 [Nioniel]: Photography 365 can haz ratings please?

2010-08-23 [Hedda]: I gave it a one. Anyone who knows something about art may increase it.

2010-08-23 [Nioniel]: Thank you!